Hey, Zangetsukakashi, DarkErigor here. I am sure you have noticed my lack of activity as of late, and I wish to apologize for this. I do not see a date in the near future when this will cease, so I just thought that I would let you know, as you have been very kind to me in the past, and thus I think you deserve to know. As I said, I am not sure when I will make my return, but I definetely intend to, but life is not quite so simple, so I don't know if it will come to pass. So, just wanted to let you know, sorry if this dissapoints you or anything. Hoping you are having an excellent summer, DarkErigor.
Long time no see Eri. I hope everything is good with u my friend.
Lolz, please don't apologize. If anyone should apologize, then it's me. I invited you guys to help me (systematic chaos too) and i just left you there all alone. And unfortunately, my inactivity isn't only here, but also to the toriko wiki and all the others. I'm really sorry Erigor, and i'm really sorry guys.
It really makes me happy that u're telling me this buddy. It's a real honor to me :))
Ya, sometimes life problems happen and you just don't find enough time to work it all out. I feel u bro. Don't worry about it. And no, i'm not disappointed at all. I just wish you all the very best in what you're doing or going through. And we'll always be waiting for your return, even if its years to come, but hopefully soon :)) Please don't feel bad about it, Erigor :))
Wishing you an excellent summer, and the best in whatever u face :)
Zange, that was perhaps the most heartfelt message I have ever received from anyone. Thank you very much for it. I just thought you should know because you have been more than helpful to me in the past, so why wouldn't I message you about an important matter such as this? Regardless, I am glad that you felt honored by it, I didn't think it would mean that much to you. It's good to know that somebody has your back as fully as this. I think that makes me even more determined to come back, but I will hold myself back until I know that I am ready. But when I do come back (and I mean for good, or as for good as you can in life), I'll be sure to let you know. So, have yourself a good day, Zange. You've earned it.
Well, not everybody would be as appreciative of such a message as you have been, so I was surprised. I will come back when I feel it is right to do so, and I can tell you for definite that it isn't today, or anytime soon probably. I'll do my best. Thanks for the good day wish. Hoping you are having a splendid one as well.
The guys over at fanon wiki are having a disagreement and I think I'm stuck in the middle. Yahoo and the others put up some strict guidelines and Bonfires doesn't approve with good reason as it may limit creativity. Can you help me with this? I want to make a compromise but this is all I've been able to think up:
My Lame Reply
That's... well... a lot to dump on me Yahoo... Anyway Bonfires argument has some merit as this is a fanon wiki made for others to express their creativity so we shouldn't put in too many restrictions that will impeded their creativity but at the same time does not fall too out of line. So here's what I think we should do:
1: First off not all abilities are technically science-based, some don't even have explanations yet and some would not be possible in our realm of reality, ex: Conduct of the King. However magic is a bit too outside of the Toriko lore, unless we make an article explaining that the magic seen in the fanon wiki is just a complex form of appetite energy manipulation used in conjunction with some mind altering pheromones.
2: Toriko has some scientifically explained things (ex: Goblinplant and Heraku) while others can be a bit more alien to our world's understanding (ex: Landsea, Bubble Fruits, etc.) so there shouldn't be any limits to beasts or ingredients so long as their flavor does not surpass Acacia's full course and that the beasts strength does not surpass the Eight Kings, unless they are an extinct species of beast that died out long before the kings came around I guess. Also deity beasts shouldn't be removed but probably altered in their definition to be something akin to the Heraku but with a mysterious charm like those of demon and phantom beasts, like maybe saying that unlike the herakus, they have the ability to resurrect themselves like this guy -> Moncorefish and while they can be mighty they can be nowhere near as mighty as the Eight Kings, simply only having the self-restoration ability to fall back on. They also wouldn't reproduce due their resurrection ability thus they wouldn't cause overpopulation.
Anyway what I personally think is that a few of these guidelines limit the imagination a bit too much and will require a few of Bonfires articles to be deleted and I don't want to disappoint him after all he went through to try and get admin status. So what should be done?
tbh, i'm also against the magic and deities in this. Imo though, i think u guys should have another admin next to Bon who can manage stuff, and there's no one better than u for this. he did say he'll make u admin, right?
apart from that, i think u guys should make the voting system, where u make a poll with whatever u guys are debating about to let the people decide. i think that's the best choice since u're still deciding things. cause if it waits until one is admin already and the rules are done, it'll be chaotic. cause ya, he won't be sad if the decision came from a vote... hopefully.
if u need me to join a convo with them or if u need help with anything, tell me.
ya, i read it, and i'm totally with u on them, except that i don't think u should even mention magic at all,,,, not even as a form of energy. but like u said, it'll be a problem to delete Bon's stuff like that, that's why i'm thinking u guys should make a poll where u offer those options. and that's exactly why i'm saying u should be an admin with Bon too, to advise him when he makes a mistake like this, and give options like u did.
i have a feeling i'm misunderstanding something :) lolz. there's something i'm missing that u're aiming at but i'm not getting cause of my think head. lol. or no?
i think ur reply is cool, and not lame at all. If Bon adds deities, it'll be different, so he better just add mythical beasts or something and non-magical stuff, cause if he goes deity+magic, we'll end up in Fairy tail fanon wiki. Ya, he should stick to the toriko roots, or else it'll not be a toriko fanon anymore, but just a regular fanon. So ya, i guess i just repeated what u said, cause i can't find more to add :) That's why u needa be an admin there too, to balance things out :)
so to sum it up, my opinion:
- he should not put deities, or magic. just mythical beasts + appetite energy forms and whatever. that's my personal opinion, for it to stick to its roots.
I'm not aiming at anything, I just don't wanna see Bon's work go down the drain after he went to the trouble of requesting to be admin even though he originally didn't want to, and he only did it because I begged him to do it, so I don't want to feel like I'm betraying him. Anyway, what I wanna try is to ask him to change his deity beasts to mythical beasts like the heraku and change all instances of the word magic with appetite energy or a gourmet cell ability. I say this because if we had a poll, everyone would just ask to remove Bon's stuff.
i didn't mean u're aiming at something ;) i meant that i had a feeling i'm missing something.
hmm. i get ur point now.
how about i write a post over there telling him to do this and that, etc. etc... ? or would that be bad? and u can write me any suggestions u want for me to pass it through as if i'm the one saying it. up to u. whatdya think? i can just go sometihng like "seeing how u guys r fighting and all, i just had to enter and give a word, since u're our sister wiki.... Imo, it would be better to.................. etc etc etc....". and u can tell me what else to say. lolz. I dunno if that even sounds good. If u have any idea, pls tell me too.
Well we should definitely ask Bon if he's willing to alter his beasts to fit with the current lore of Toriko and if he doesn't have the time for it then we can tell him that I'm willing to alter his articles to match up with the lore and for him to be understandable. We should also speak to the other guys like Yahoo because he seems to think Bon wouldn't make a good admin and I don't want them to be thinking ill of each other.
You're better at the reasoning thing than me, so you say it in whatever way sounds the most friendly and understandable to them.
Sups, Bon. I know i'll sound cheesy with most of the stuff i'll write, but ya, that's a welcoming message for our fella wiki's future admin, God willing. So ya, i'll rant a lil... hope u don't get bored :)))
I've been following on what u guys were planning, and it seemed to me that u guys are very enthusiastic (man, the youth ;)), but something i noticed is that u're not in full agreement with each other. It's not a big issue, but i'm just offering my opinion about things. Going deeper with u guys' wikia plans, firstly, i feel u guys should not add magic. Magic is just... i dunno how to say it.... it's not Toriko. It just doesn't feel right. Same as deities. I understand "mythical beasts", but going for "this beast is the deity in this land, etc..." just won't feel toriko too. Imo, that goes more towards a normal fanon, or even a Fairytail one. A toriko fanon needs.. u know,, mythical beasts, capture levels, a few square root laws (haha, jk), etc...
Thing is, I want you to lead here... I know u were hesitant at first, and I heard that's why u're also having TFBeast become an admin with ya (which is awesome, since he's the backbone of everything on our main wiki) and I know how tough it can be for a group of people to manage a wikia. Some helpful things u can do is to rely on ur pals. Something we do at the main toriko wiki is polls. U take people's opinion about some act u wanna do, AFTER u take the opinion of yer fella admin (which u want Beast for the position). If u and that admin agree on something, just take off from there and do it, but if u're hesitant and people're arguing, then the poll :)
So ya, that's my first hint of the day i have no idea why i'm talking as if i'm the expert here. sorry :)
Sounds good but mention that he doesn't have to delete his articles, just rewrite them, like removing magic and adding gourmet-based abilities and changing deity beasts to mythical beasts. And if he doesn't have the time to do it himself then I will personally do it for him.
After checking through Bon's contributions, his log-ins are far in between and a few of his character articles (which I did not know existed and were pointed out to me by Nobody) seem a bit controversial. If I had know about these fan characters I might've not been so defensive for his sake. Now, I do not know whether we should wait... You decide. You're a better decision maker than me.
Zange... I think we may have made a mistake in letting these guys have too much influence over Bon's position on the fanon wiki... I need to speak with you as soon as possible. Please let me know when you're available for chat! Also we can't chat on Toriko Wiki, so we should chat on that Freezing Wiki we usually use, if its still empty that is.
For the love of Pete man, this is getting too heavy and Bon is really depressed! I could really use your help so please any time you're available for chat please let me know. It has to be today because these guys are really hasty. <:(
Sup dude, so...I was meaning to make a main page for the wiki but after adding the standared stuff, I'm stuck. I really can't write chapter and character summaries so I'd like to ask for your opinion. Well..that's all I guess..just check the main page and tell me some suggestions please :)
lmaooooooooooooo. i'm really sorry, man. i swear i didn't notice u're an admin at the berserk wikia. omg. i feel terrible now :((((((((((((( what did i do :((((( nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. and here i'm going "don't mention names cause they'll be sad seeing it", and the irony is "u're already seeing it". omg. i'm sorry pal.
Ahahahhaha, it's ok bro, I'm not offended or anything don't worry :P Anyway, Unok had already told me that you guys on Toriko wiki don't accept ecchi stuff so I pretty much knew stuff like Berserk wiki aren't acceptable :D Don't worry dude :)
just one thing i'm thinking of... when we name the chapter according to its title, maybe we should put the redirect as "Chapter 2 (Sakigake Otokojuku)" or something. No idea. Just thinking that when people search, they'll type "chapter 2" first, so if it's named "SO Chapter 2", it won't appear in the pop-up search results, while if the SO is written AFTER the "Chapter 2", at least they'll find results like "Chapter 2 (Sakigake!! Otokojuku)", "Chapter 2 (Edajima)", etc...
lolz. dunno if u've understood any of that, since i just wrote it in a complicated way. sorry. :)